THAT INTERVIEW…

This interview went out in October 2009, in the ‘Taboo Issue’ of Bizarre magazine. In case you were wondering, they were too nervous to use the names Adam or StrayX on the interview, for fear of being accused of promoting our work. Doesn’t get more bizarre than that. Thanks to Gandalf69 for digging this out…

Doctor X runs several bestiality porn sites, and actress Stray is the major star of his movies. They spoke exclusively to Bizarre about doing things doggy style…

Doctor X and Stray (their names have been changed for legal reasons), think their golden retriever, Elvis, is the dog’s bollocks. They feed him salmon, let him sleep in their beds and, in Stray’s case, the royal treatment even extends to allowing ‘The King’ to love her tender… or hard, rough, and from behind, while Doctor X and his seven-man production crew film it at their base in sunny south-western Europe. They also arrange regular play dates for Elvis and his doggy friends to service a wide roster of other willing women.

So when it came to publishing Bizarre’s Taboo Special, speaking to two people who push the traditional boundaries of taste to their limits – and who indulge in sexual activities that are illegal in many countries, including the UK where penetrative sex with an animal is outlawed – was essential.

Web designer and producer Doctor X and adult actress Stray are business partners who make their living through running pornographic websites for people who share their fetish for ‘pet love’ – a term they invented because they don’t feel the labels ‘zoophilia’ or ‘bestiality’ accurately apply to them.

“Zoophiles develop a deep romantic bond with an animal, and consider themselves to be in a relationship, sometimes even culminating in an interspecies marriage – fair enough, but we don’t feel that strongly,” explains Doctor X. “The word ‘bestialist’, on the other hand, commonly refers to individuals who fuck livestock but couldn’t give a damn about their wellbeing; it’s a pejorative term, with negative connotations of sheep shaggers, goat rapists and horse slashers who get off on mutilating stallions’ genitals. Pet lovers like Stray and I are normal-but-kinky professionals whose tastes are healthily balanced in the middle; we like the thrill of watching or having sex with animals, and are affectionate towards them, but we’re not ‘in love’ with them. And there are lots of others out there who have the same outlook.”

POUND PUPPIES

Doctor X, 38, professes to being “a filthy little bastard from the day I was born!”. He first discovered his interest in animal sex in the late 1970s. “My uncle used to stash top-shelf mags in the bathroom cupboards and the garage, and my favourite pastime was to sneakily study them. I couldn’t get enough,” he explains. “Back then, laws on the content of pornography weren’t so tight or so stringently enforced; you could get your hands on a huge diversity of extreme stuff with relative ease. I’d glimpsed pictures of women being serviced by dogs on some smutty playing cards a schoolmate brought back from holiday, but the real moment of enlightenment was discovering a magazine spread showing the famous Danish beast-porn babe Bodil Joensen sucking off a horse.”

Bodil was also the star of a notorious underground beast sex compilation called Animal Farm, which was widely bootlegged in the UK in the 1970s and 80s and showed pig fellatio, chicken penetration, and live eels being inserted into the actress’ vagina.

The film – which was seized in police raids on Soho sex shops that stocked it, but which had already gone into wide circulation on pirated VHS tapes – became a subject of secondary school gossip across the UK and Europe and, keen to coax his partners into indulging in some live canine carnal action, Doctor X used Animal Farm to test his partners’ attitudes.

“Everyone was talking about the movie, so I’d ask girlfriends whether they’d seen it, what they thought of it, and then move on to suggesting they try a bit of ‘puppy love’,” he says. “One big-boobed blonde I was lucky enough to date was up for it, so we borrowed a neighbour’s Labrador with the weak excuse that we wanted to take it for a walk. It screwed her all over my parents’ lounge. It was fantastic – and completely illegal where we were living.”

A SPANIEL IN THE WORKS

But while it may seem incredibly young to be entering into such an extreme sex act as a teenager, Doctor X claims that many subscribers to his pet love websites are between 18 and 21. “Around that age you begin to experiment and explore your desires,” he says. “I think certain youths ‘practice’ with the family pet before finding a boy or girlfriend, especially in isolated areas where there are plenty of animals around but fewer peers to socialise with, and my online videos get a lot of hits from Texas and other rural regions.

“For some, dabbling with a dog is a passing developmental phase; for others, it becomes an enduring fetish. The other key group of viewers who buy my films are about 45 years old; that’s the time people tend to realise life’s too short to be a prude, shrug off the last of their inhibitions, and get crazy!”

Doctor X set his first site up eight years ago, after studying arts and programming at college. It began after a tongue-in-cheek e-tutorial he created instructing women on how best to have sex with a dog unexpectedly garnered huge volumes of appreciative feedback and thank you emails, and he spotted a gap in the market.

“At that time, most animal porn on the web aimed to be shocking and weird, but people like me wanted material that was chic, sexy, ballsy and cool, designed to be a sophisticated turn-on rather than a low-budget gross-out,” he says. “There was nothing to cater for female tastes either; all the girls in bestiality flicks were marketed in a derogatory manner, as ‘butt-fucking, mutt-fucking worthless slut whores’. That’s the exact opposite of how I view pet-loving women. To me, they’re the ultimate in erotic boldness. They’re so horny, so in control of their own pleasure, and so determined to get themselves off that they dare to revolt against taboo and danger and go at it with a dog.”

I’M NEUTER THIS…

Stray agrees with Doctor X’s philosophy. “Getting fucked by dogs allows me to take charge of my own sexuality. I don’t have to rely on a man,” she states. Not that she couldn’t get any guy she wanted: bisexual Stray is smart (she has a BA in fine art), sweet and scorching hot.

While Stray can’t put her finger on a single formative experience that sparked off her “always present” pet love fetish, she remembers reading stories by feminist author Nancy Friday about liberated women having dog sex, and thinking “Wow, other people fantasise like I do!”.

She also recalls the first time, aged 21, she met a bloke with a dog – and fancied him and his pet: “It was the first real-life incidence of me seeing an animal in the flesh and feeling lust. I had a relationship with the bloke for ages, and used to lie next to him with the dog close by, wishing I could somehow initiate my dream scenario, but he was very straight-laced and I think he’d have been horrified if I’d made a move on his dog.”

The arrival of the internet revolutionised Stray’s sex life. “Suddenly information was available, chat rooms, forums,” she says. “Pet love sites would frequently get closed down, but I learned to recognise insider lingo – plus, as a single woman into pet love, I was a popular community member and fellow enthusiasts would ensure I was kept in the loop! Posts on an internet group drew my attention to one of Doctor X’s websites, which had been running for three years, and I thought it really spoke to women. It was classy and upmarket, not degrading. We started chatting – during which time I my lost my doggy virginity.”

GREAT DANE DATE

One night while clubbing, Stray met someone who had a great dane, which she had her first sexual encounter with back at the owner’s house. “It wasn’t the best breed for a beginner as great danes are huge and clumsy,” she says. “They tend to accidentally scratch you quite a lot. When I got sexual with the dog it was indescribably exciting, but also very ‘out there’. It felt surreal.”

Stray began working with Doctor X soon after her initial experience with the great dane. “I knew I wanted to explore pet love further; I loved Doctor X’s approach and as a young English-speaking woman who takes pride in her appearance, I felt I had something different to offer to the foreign-language bestiality movies coming out of places like Brazil,” she explains.

“Money isn’t my main motivation, but I earn a good amount of cash too, and no-one takes a bigger cut than me from the productions I star in. Every aspect of what I do is liberating and empowering, although my mother holds a different stance on feminism to me and would probably think the opposite. She doesn’t know I work in porn, but my dad does. I used to wear a mask on set to preserve my anonymity, but I don’t any longer. I’m not ashamed.”

POOCHIE COOCHIE

In her five years of pet love, Stray’s only had a couple of bad experiences: “Dogs have a bone in their penises, and I had sex with one black Labrador whose cock was particularly pointy and angled – it cut me. It hurt at first, but I didn’t need medical attention. Other than that, I’ve had plenty of scratches and bruises; Rottweilers are notably aggressive and like to show you who’s boss. They’re dim too – I’ve had one try to hump my ear! I was black and blue after filming The Record, the first ever doggy gangbang in which I set a new pet love benchmark by consecutively and continuously being pleasured by eight dogs in a row. We shot about 20 hours of tape for that, and I orgasmed countless times; depending on breed, dogs’ boners can swell to enormous dimensions – some great danes’ cocks are the same size as my forearm – and I find they make me feel wonderfully full.”

Does Stray enjoy sex with dogs more than sex with humans? “With dogs, a high degree of the thrill for me these days is being on camera,” she says. “I love thinking about people watching me do something so raw. If I’m making love with a man or woman who’s really special to me, I guess it can be better, but it’s a tough call. Certainly, if you were to tie me up and say, ‘Right, you’re going to be fucked by a strange guy or a strange dog,’ the dog would win every time. For a start, it’s biologically impossible to for me to get pregnant that way, and the dog is likely to be cleaner!”

IN THE DOG HOUSE

Protestations that what they do is ‘dirty’ is one of the main arguments Stray and Doctor X encounter from people who are damning of their fetish. “There are few arguments against pet love that I can’t answer,” Doctor X maintains. “The idea that sex with a dog is ‘dirty’ is just plain wrong. There are no STDs you can give to or catch from a canine, and the only diseases you can pick up are infections you’d be at the same risk or contracting if you just kept the animal as a pet. Plus a mutt cleans its dick about 15 times a day. I don’t know any man who can claim the same!

“There are also objectors who say pet love is ‘wrong in the eyes of God’, but I’m not religious. As for those who claim it’s ‘unnatural’ – in that case, why is there evidence of bestiality in practically every culture since ancient times? Humans have a long, long history of copulating with animals. Moreover, skydiving or bungee jumping might be seen as pretty ‘unnatural’ things to do for thrills, but if no-one gets hurt, what’s the problem?”

Whether anyone ‘gets hurt’ is a pertinent question. How do Doctor X and Stray answer the accusation that dog sex equates to animal abuse, because there’s no way to tell whether the animal has consented to or enjoys the act? “There’s certainly a grey moral area when it comes to men sticking their cocks in female or male animals, and I don’t show any of that on my website – it feels too close to rape,” states Doctor X.

“But a dog fucking a woman is a different situation entirely. A male dog won’t get an erection and actively take control of humping a woman unless it wants to; I know, because I’ve had dogs wander off or lay down and go to sleep on set if they’re not in the mood! And of course, you can’t make a male dog fuck a woman against its will. And they must enjoy it, because they come back for more; we’ve had to train Elvis not to jump on Stray in public.”

Stray also points to the work of Australian philosopher Peter Singer, who specialises in ethics and has published papers on the morality of bestiality, writing that “sex with animals does not always involve cruelty” and can be “mutually satisfying”.

Peter’s work was at one point supported by Ingrid Newkirk, president of the animal rights group PETA, who said, “If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it’s great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. (But) if (a sex act) isn’t exploitation and abuse, (then) it may not be wrong.” Ingrid later withdrew this comment and publicly announced that she strongly opposed any “exploitation of and all sexual activity with animals”, but Stray still subscribes to her original sentiment.

Whatever Stray and Doctor X’s opinions, British law says penetrative sex with animals is illegal, so after checking out a variety of destinations, the English-born pair have now both settled abroad in a quiet European country where their actions are within the law. “Where we’re based, you can freely buy animal porn in shops and from newsstands,” smiles Stray. “Pet love videos are routinely in the top three bestselling DVDs at sex shops, and we just went to an expo where they were screening doggy sex shows on giant TVs. They’re more liberal here in general – even the government has been very helpful with the business side of things. Also, Doctor X doesn’t have to pay the best part of a tenner for a pack of cigs!”

Doctor X and Stray’s websites currently sell 200-400 movies worldwide every day, and they get a new registration to their newsletters every minute – but Doctor X worries that their success may soon be curtailed by new internet laws.

“I think we’re at an interesting point in online legislation now,” he muses. “I reckon it’s going to go one way or another; we’ll either make a decision to become more liberated and embrace freedom of information, choice and expression, or we’ll regress into extreme censorship and the internet will be severely restricted. Ultimately, I’d like to be able to work with universities to actively discuss and share info and statistics on fetishes like pet love, and collaborate on studies which might increase acceptance and understanding of such desires, but I’m not sure society will ever be that open-minded. Yet with our great team and our fantastic site supporters, Stray and I intend to see how far we can go.”

We asked the RSPCA for its response to this feature

“The subject of bestiality is no joke. We believe it to be the ultimate desecration of the relationship between humans and animals. The RSPCA is opposed to the infliction of pain, suffering and distress or the killing of any animal in the name of entertainment. The Society firmly believes that animals should be treated with respect and dignity.”

Doctor X and Stray were not paid for this interview.